Episode #18: Making A Mood Board For Your Entire Home

Elsie: You’re listening to the A Beautiful Mess podcast. This week we’re talking about how and why it’s helpful to create a mood for your whole home. We also answer a reader question about whether to embrace or avoid trends. This episode is sponsored by Grove Collaborative. We’ll talk more about them later in this episode. I’m excited about this episode because it’s about making mood boards, which is one of my favorite things ever in my whole life to do. Have you made mood boards for your home?

Emma: Yeah, I usually do it…I usually do exactly what I think you’re going to say not to do this episode (laughs), which is…and I think part of it is..so I make them room by room at the moment. And the reason is because I’ve lived in my home now for about five years. And so the majority of it’s done. But I am about to redo what what we usually call Trey’s music room. Yeah, but now I like to troll him and I call it my podcast room.

Elsie: Nice, well, I mean, who’s using it more and for what?

Emma: I mean, probably still he uses it more, plus, also, I like use all his equipment to record our podcasts, so I’m really a guest in the room. But since I am in his music room a lot more, I’ve noticed that it could use a little more furnishing. And like the chair that I sit in and that he sits in is not super comfortable. It doesn’t have any curtains on the windows, which I actually think would improve the sound quality as well as the look of the room.

Elsie: Yeah one time one of our kids had to sleep in there re member? And it was like a big problem? (laughs)

Emma: You’ll like this. We’re also getting a tiny love seat that has a pullout bed, too, because we always have to blow up a air mattress in here for like. Yeah, when kids are saying over nieces or whatever. So now we’ll have a little…and I mean, an air mattress is great, but you know, now we’ll have a little pullout bed anyway. So I think I pretty much do what you’re going to say not to do. But I just want to say I have a little bit of a reason. But I do think when you’re in the position where you’re starting from scratch like you are, Elsie.

Elsie: Yes.

Emma: You guys are moving into a whole new home and there’s stuff you’re going to save, of course, but also you’re making it your own like the entire house. Then I think this is a great way to go about it. And I wish I had done this when we first moved into our home. And now that I’ve already been here, you know. Anyway, so.

Elsie: Hell, yeah. Okay. So first of all, of course, like if you have an apartment or you’ve been living in your house a long time and you just need a refresh, don’t take this as “if you can’t do the whole house from nothing, then you can’t do anything” like that’s crazy. And that’s not what we’re trying to say. I’m just saying, if you’re going to move like we are right now and you are starting from scratch, you might as well make a mood board for your whole home. It’s helped me immensely in my last two houses because I’ve made kind of a color scheme for the whole house. And then, you know, a year or two later, when you get bored or anxious or you’re just looking for change, you can swap from room to room to room, all your different things and everything kind of matches. So I’m a big fan of sort of having one color scheme for the whole house. You know, if possible, obviously, and not a totally different color scheme for every room. And, you know, people can do what they want. Like, listen to me. I’m saying, do what you want. Follow your heart. If your heart is like rainbow house and each room is its own color. I support you, but I am a neutral loving person and I actually thrive on a pretty calm, low contrast environment. I guess. So yeah, for me, this is what works. And the episode is about how to choose a style for your new home.

Emma: Can I say kind of one related thing, but very different. Before we get started, before we jump into your three steps? So as I was reading, Elsie is really the leader of this episode. So she sent me her outline and I was like reading what we’re doing and what her tips are and stuff. And it kind of dawned on me that a lot of this is very similar to — I’m working on The Curated Closet workbook right now for my personal style, which is, you know, clothing, fashion. So not home decor, but it’s actually like a lot of it is very similar. Like thinking through how you go about this is very similar to how she recommends you come up with your personal style and work on your wardrobe. So I think that’s kind of interesting. And also at some point, if you don’t know what I’m talking about, that’s from our New Year’s episode. And we will probably give you guys an update on how our goals are going. Not this episode, because we’re going to talk about home and mood boards, but I just wanted to put that out there. That it’s actually very similar to coming up with your personal style.

Elsie: Absolutely. I agree. There’s so many parallels. I’m also doing the Curated Closet workbook this year. We’re both on that journey together. And it is, it’s very similar. It’s figuring out, you know what you really love building a collection of basics and, you know, things that you think you’ll love for a long time instead of just buying every cute thing you see at Target. It’s really the same thing for your home and your closet. I agree. So what we have here today is four steps for creating a vision board for your new home. This is the style, the color scheme and the overall vibe that you’re trying to create. So let’s go through each step and then then we can kind of talk about what we’ve done, what we’ve tried, you know, what works. Yeah. All right. So the first step is to pin or save. You can either do a pin board or you can do just like a folder on your laptop, a giant folder or board of inspiration and just save everything that attracts you. Don’t over analyze it. Don’t overthink it. Don’t worry about if it matches or what style is. Just save everything in there you like that pleases your eye, that inspires you. And then in the next step you’ll be analyzing it.

Emma: Yes. And in this first step, one thing that I think works well is don’t just look at modern day houses, not just modern style. If you love modern style, that’s great. But I just mean, you know, sometimes Pinterest or wherever we start looking is actually a pretty small sampling of what’s possible. So it’s great if you can look at old architecture books, maybe go to your local library or go to a bookstore like, you know, and you’re not going to be building like a Gothic castle per se, I mean, maybe, you know, most people’s budget’s not going to fit that. But I do think getting inspiration from lots of different places and lots of different times and styles that are maybe not exactly your style, but they might open up your mind to different color combinations or things like that, I think can be really valuable because it I think it ensures that you will end up with something well-rounded that you still love and that represents you and your partner, your family, whoever lives in your home. But also, I think it’ll be a little bit more unique. You know, sometimes if you’re just looking at, you know, your friends’ five houses than your house is probably going to look like..their house, you know, that’s just not a very broad sampling.

Elsie: I completely agree. I think that the best way you can collect inspiration is a mixture of old and new, all different designers, different, you know, eras, different countries, you know, different cultures…all of it. The worst thing you can do is pick like just one brand’s catalog and make it look like just that. And that’s my opinion. Like maybe someone else feels a deep love for their West Elm catalog and that’s like their dream home. And yeah,.

Emma: If that’s your dream home, then do it.

Elsie: You do you. But for me, yeah, a mixture. And I think one of the best things I learned this time when I’ve been collecting inspiration for a new home was just some quote I read somewhere that said, you know, “no home is supposed to be just one era” because we’re doing a mid-century home. So there’s a lot of mid-century inspiration in it. But I loved opening up that freedom and realizing that even in, you know, 1965 in like your perfect Don Draper apartment, there was still a mixture of some older things, you know, because every person has something that they’re bringing from their past, maybe something your grandma handed down, maybe something you found at a flea market. So, yeah, it doesn’t need to be some kind of little replica bubble of just one time or one era, especially, I think, in a historical home. It can be a mixture of different styles and different…anyway, I’m getting off track. Let’s go to the second tip. OK. So the second well, step, is analyze the trends, styles, colors and commonalities of everything you saved. So kind of just make a list of like, OK, I seem to be loving light wood. I seem to be loving lots of white. I notice there’s a lot of this color and this color in the things that I’m pinning. There will probably be more trends throughout that, than you’re expecting because your instincts were gravitating towards something that you might not even know you love. And let’s see, I think it’s great to follow a style or a theme, but it’s even better to create your own custom look based on the things that you’ve collected that you truly love. So feel free to combine styles.

Emma: Yeah. And I think too, during this phase, during this step two , as you analyze the big folder or pin board of styles that you’ve collected or, pictures you’ve collected. You might kind of realize there are a few things that just aren’t going to fit your current home, like let’s say you’ve pinned or saved a folder and you have all these rooms that have floor to ceiling windows and they’re like huge tall ceilings. And you might have ranch-style low ceilings, you know, smaller windows home. And it’s just not…you’re not going to be able to do that, you know, so don’t get too hung up on that. That’s one thing I would point out, because I think sometimes I can get kind of like, oh, this isn’t gonna work. So forget…forget the whole thing. And it’s like, okay. Don’t don’t feel defeated if something, you know, isn’t gonna quite work right now. The future…life is long. So that’s one. And then just also, what else do you love? Like, there’s probably not just one thing and one thing I…so I’m going to give a weird tip. It’s from fashion rather than home decor. But I noticed that when I was doing this for the curated closet workbook, I was like pinning all that. You’re supposed to kind of make a folder of fashion you love. So icons from different eras and, you know, women who, or men, who wear cool stuff. So a lot of people I had were very different, like the color palettes were different. Like two examples I had: I’m going to say the name wrong now that this is being recorded. Frida Kahlo. Is that how you say it? She’s a Mexican artist and she has all the flowers and her braids.

Elsie: Oh Frida Kahlo.

Elsie: Yeah. Frida and also Debbie Harry, who is from the band Blondie. Yeah. And these are two women. I love their style. But if you if you don’t know who they are, Google them, but their styles are very different. They’re from two very different eras in time, very different areas of the country, very different jobs that they had and lifestyles. But one thing I realized is, as I was analyzing was I like what I love about them is they have something iconic about their look. They’re always doing X, Y, Z, like Frida. She kind of always has these dresses that are embroidered and they’re just like a lot. And then she’ll have like ribbon or flowers or something in her hair. And that’s like her look. And Debbie, she will do a lot of black and white and a lot of like black leather jackets and like big black sunglasses. And she has this very blonde hair, you know, from the band Blondie. So it makes sense. So she just has like this, like, very “look”. And I was like, oh, I think I do sincerely like both their styles. But also I think I really like having an iconic uniform. And it’s kind of like your thing. And that helped me kind of understand. Okay. Like, maybe I’m not going to dress exactly like either of them. Maybe my house isn’t going to look exactly like these things on my pin board. But maybe what I really love is this particular aspect of it, you know.

Elsie: When I was saving my inspiration this last year to two years while we were house shopping, I had it in my mind that we were going to get a historic home, like from the early nineteen hundreds. And a lot of things I had saved are from that era. And when we ended up buying a mid-century home, it was kind of hard for me at first because I felt like I had to let go of a lot of things that I was excited to embrace. And I did. But what I ended up keeping from it, I think, is making the mid-century design more textured and more interesting. So, yeah, I think definitely combining, you know, two things together that maybe never were meant to go together is. I mean, sometimes like the best thing you can do.

Emma: Yeah, I agree. And it just makes it so much more unique. I feel like I kind of already said that, but I definitely think getting inspiration for lots of different areas and really figuring out what it is you love about it, not just your gut. “Oh, I love these five things and they’re very different. They don’t go together”. You know, really distilling it down. I think can help you create a style that’s unique to you and your family.

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Emma: Yeah, I could see this, the quick look mood boards being really helpful, too, if you’re in a position where you’re gonna be moving from one house to another or one place to another, like going through everything you already own and it could be…

Elsie: Oh for cleaning out. Yeah.

Emma: Yeah, it could be for budget purposes. You might know, oh, my couch doesn’t really fit with what I’m going for, but I’m still going to need to keep it for a year or two or whatever. But then I feel like you at least know you can identify it and maybe even make another little list on your phone. That’s like next time there’s a big sale and I you know, and I have the money or whatever and I’m gonna be buying that new couch that I want (this is just an example). Then I can look at my quick look mood boards and know, one, that’s the thing I actually need. I’ve been waiting for it and saving up whatever and two, I know what colors I want what textures I want, general style and stuff. And I won’t just see a sale and like you said, kind of impulse buy when you don’t really need something or buy something that doesn’t really even fit what you’re going for.

Elsie: Yes, definitely. That is probably the biggest thing I learned from my first home was that I had the idea in my head, in my first home that if you just only buy things you love, then it doesn’t matter. You know, it’ll all just kind of like fit together and it’ll be your own unique look, kind of like a closet, you know, is what I was thinking, we’re talking about closets lot in this episode, which was funny, but it’s really…not it doesn’t work like that in home stuff as much. I don’t think because it’s not like a closet where you pull out an outfit and then you’re on, oh, this theme and the next day you can, you know, kind of have a different theme or a different vibe, like your rooms are your rooms. And the stuff you own is out there together in the rooms quite a bit. And I do think it’s better to kind of focus on curating a certain style that you’ve picked intentionally if something that inspires you. Right. And one that you probably feel like you can live with for years to come.

Emma: Because like you said, your outfits, you change every day but your couch, you probably don’t change often.

Elsie: I am like, I will say I’m big on seasonal decorations and they give me this little kitschy outlet where I can do all this crazy stuff and enjoy it, but then put it away a month later, two months later. So I think that that’s a good way to have that, like fun, you know, and changing it up through the year because you’re not going to change your couch three times a year unless you’re like, you know, I don’t know. Hopefully not. OK, so pinning to one giant board, analyzing, creating your quick look, mood boards and OK, so this is the last step and it is dove in and educate yourself on your favorite eras. Favorite designers, artisans and styles become an expert in this type of style for the home, just for fun. Never stop learning. I love this one because I feel like it’s not something that in the past I really…I for my first couple houses, I was very surface level about the style that I liked and I would pin, you know, five different rooms and they had kind of like the same color couch or the same color floors. And I would think they all looked the same. But once I started educating myself more about, you know, furniture and design and, you know, just all the different elements, it’s just it’s amazing how much you can learn about just windows, if you want to. So I feel like it has helped me a lot to have more confidence and honestly, just more…it’s more fun. I like the nerdy educational aspect of designing a room and feeling like you’re doing something that sort of based on history a little bit. That’s what inspires me usually, you know, or something, whatever. Like instead of just like riding the trend of, you know, this year, you can create something that I don’t know kind of reflects you more.

Emma: Yeah. And I think, too, like this is a lifelong part of home decor. So, you know, you don’t have to know everything about windows and tile and flooring and couches and curtains. And you don’t have to know every single thing when you buy your very first home or when you move into your very first apartment or whatever. It’s like a lifelong, you know, always learning more stuff and being curious. That’s what I really like…

Elsie: Definitely. I mean, you can still design an amazing room if it’s your first time and you don’t know anything. You can just, you know, jump in. See what pictures inspire you. Try to copy the things that attract you. I’m not talking down to someone on their first project at all because I was that person not that long ago. And it was a fun and magical stage. But I think just like staying challenged to learn about the things that you’re into more deeply is is really exciting part of designing.

Emma: Yeah, I agree. I think it’s fun too, to learn in addition to the kind of technical nerdy side of things, you know, what types of windows and the direction they face and stuff like that or whatever. There’s all sorts of nerdy areas. I also love to do the kind of… woo woo…I can’t think of another way to describe it. But like, you know, some of my favorite colors. I love to, like, look up their meanings in like different cultures and things like that. And I didn’t pick the colors based on the meaning I already liked, you know, the colors I like. But I just think it’s fun to, learn about that aspect of things, too. I started doing it with like our Christmas ornaments on our Christmas tree this past year. I sometimes will buy things that are like symbolic if that makes sense. So I don’t know. It’s just like a fun little, you know, kind of silly, but just, you know, fun to know about. It’s kinda like looking up your own horoscopes.

Elsie: Yeah. I love that, too. Like bottom line, the more you put into your home, the more you’ll get out of it. So yeah, learning about every little thing and choosing things with love and care. I think that that is extremely significant.

Emma: Yeah. It’s just another way of valuing the things that you have around you.

Elsie: I love it. It makes me so happy. OK. Well, I hope that was helpful for anyone moving soon or, you know, you have on your horizon. And if you’re someone like me who’s trying to keep do sort of a forever home, that it’s so extremely…first it felt so extremely high pressure. And these things, I think, helped to kind of get into the zone where I feel confident and ready to make those decisions instead of like paralyzed by, you know, the decision fatigue.

Emma: This week, we have a reader question, which, by the way, these are from our e-mail box. We have email at podcast at A Beautiful Mess dot com. So if you have a question for us, you can send it there. You can also get with us on social media. But a lot of times the ones we’re reading on here, that’s where they’re from. They’re from the email box. OK, so this one is from a reader. Name Jocelyn. Do you think that’s how you say it?

Emma: Jocelyn. Yes. OK. That’s what I thought. But I am notorious for mispronouncing everything, even things that you don’t think you should be able to mispronounce. That’s me anyway. OK. Jocelyn says, “I have been loving reading the blog and listening to your podcast. I was wondering what your thoughts are on trendy versus traditional home decorating choices. How do you mix more classic timeless colors and decorating choices with trendy designs? I recently purchased my first home and I’ve been trying to make choices that will be more long term. For example, all our walls in the house were painted an early 2000s brown color which I have now painted white. But will white be a color that I’ll be rolling my eyes at a few years from now because it was too trendy? How do you balance what you like with what will be longer lasting?” Big congrats suggestion on buying your first home. That is such an exciting time. So go you. OK. So she wants to know about trendy versus traditional and how to make choices that you might love years in the future, even though you don’t know your future self, which I do think this is like a very intimidating thing. Like I’m going to say my opinion, but also I totally think this is the thing that you really can’t answer without a time machine.

Elsie: Yeah.

Emma: But anyway, what do you think sis?

Elsie: OK, so two separate, two separate things. First one is you can’t know the future and don’t stress about paint colors like. Paint is not a big deal to change! Never stress yourself out about whether or not a paint color is timeless, because if you change your mind, what is it, two or three hours, maybe one day commitment to change it to something else that inspires you in two or three years? I think paints. I think it’s a gift in that way. I would anguish a little bit more over something real expensive.

Emma: Yeah.

Elsie: Like if you’re buying your first expensive sectional or bed frame or, you know, bedroom set, dining table. Yeah, something like that. I would put a lot of thought into that. I wouldn’t even worry about paint. So the other thing I want to say is, OK. When you talk about trendy versus traditional, this took me a long time to get my head around, but I really believe that it’s different for everyone. So what is trendy right now might still be a classic choice for me, or it might be something that in six months to a year I’m already going to be sick of. And it’s up to each person to figure out, is this a classic choice for me? Is this something that I’m always gonna love or is this something that I’m being very influenced by, something I’ve seen on social media or on Pinterest. So I think doing the…what we’ve talked about this whole episode, really analyzing your style and getting into it, I think when it comes to big choices like a color scheme, major purchases, tile, wallpaper, big commitments like that — I think that you just have to put in the time to find out what things you’re always drawn back to year after year after year. And I really feel like a sense of confidence about that now. Like especially with colors. I know colors that I’m going to keep loving. And I think everyone can find that. But it is different for each person. So just because…this year, I feel like green is very, very popular as a paint color. And then like warmer colors, like the sort of terracotta color. And maybe that’s a trend for you. Maybe it’s not. I think that if you really evaluate your style, you can find that out.

Emma: Yeah, I pretty much wrote down. It’s funny. Like the exact same things you said Elsie because. Yeah, I know, right? That never happens. We usually like say the opposite thing. Because I’m always surprised. I’m like, you know, I love how much Jocelyn’s thinking about it. Like that’s exactly how you should be because you’re gonna spend a lot of money and a lot of time in your home. So it is a big deal. But I am always surprised when people think white walls are trendy, like to me, white walls…because I think it’s different for everyone like you’re saying. But to me, white walls are as classic as a white t shirt. Like they’re just, you know, plain to me. I don’t I don’t consider white walls trendy at all. I think beige walls are more trendy, in my opinion, in a bad way. But, you know, if you love beige, do it. But, you know, I’ve never understood why people think that one’s a trend. I think it’s just like you see it a lot on Pinterest, I think, because it’s classic, like a white tshirt. But that’s just my opinion. And I also think along those lines with the white walls, which is a paint choice, and to Elsie’s point paint is one of the easiest things to change in any room, in any house, even if it’s painting a whole house, it’s still one of the easier things to change. But along those lines, I think if you’re doing something…as you’re making decisions, how much you spend on something or how easy it is to change can really dictate how “safe”, of a choice that you make. So if you’re, you know, really nervous, you’re like, I’m not sure what tile to pick for my bathroom. There’s a lot of tile in my bathroom. And the two that I really like is this like kind of classic white penny tile. And also, I love this, like, very decorative, trendy, bright blue tile or something. You know, if you’re really on the fence and your partner doesn’t care and cost exactly the same, which probably one cost less than the other. I would go to the “safe” choice and I would just get really colorful towels or a really colorful bathmat or paint the walls that aren’t tiled a bold color because that’s all easier to change and less expensive later, whereas ripping out tile years later and replacing is gonna cost a lot more and create a lot more waste. But, that being said, if you love the trendy thing and you’re going to live in your house a long time and you’re really excited about it and it fits your budget, do it. Why not? You know, so I don’t really you know, I know that’s not super, super helpful. But I just think sometimes I get the vibe that people think if they decorate their house in the way that they love, that it won’t age. So they should decorate their house like their mother. They don’t love and they think that’ll last forever. And, you know, and our mom has great style. And that’s not dissing moms. I’m just saying that doesn’t make sense if you really think about it so…

Elsie: Well, if you’re going to default to classic choices, you have to put in the time to figure out what classic means to you. And it can’t just mean boring…if it just means like neutral and boring to you. Maybe that’s not always a good thing.

Emma: And hopefully it also doesn’t mean cheap because obviously you probably have a budget you have to work with. We all do. But if you’re only picking something because of the price, it’d be probably better if you saved up longer to choose something that you really love.

Elsie: That’s true.

Emma: If you can, that’s tough. But that’s okay.

Elsie: I want to say one more thing about the Whitewater thing. Okay. So. Okay. Years ago, this is probably like when John and Sherry first started their podcast, I don’t know like three or four years ago?

Emma: Young House Love?

Elsie: Yeah. Young House Love podcast. Everyone knows — it’s the best podcast ever. Okay. So I was on their podcast one time talking about white paint. That was like my episode because I think people think of me as like “white paint lady” because I really like my white paint and my white walls and…OK. What was funny was that Katy Bauer was on the episode too, and I guess she was like my like paint color nemesis or whatever. And she said, I always remember this. She said that to her, a painted white room always looks unfinished no matter what. And so I think that, like, that’s a good way to figure out which one you are. Because to me, like, I painted my living room, three different shades of gray before I ended up painting it white. Because I felt like it needed this contrast. But I could never feel settled until it was white and the contrast was gone. And to some people, that looks unfinished. I think it’s an instinct’s thing.

Emma: Yeah…or taste. You know, some people like to wear white t shirts and some people don’t. And that’s cool. You know, like you know what I mean? Like, it’s just it’s we all have different tastes and that’s.

Elsie: Yeah.

Emma: Not bad. That’s good. It’s fun.

Elsie: I think with paint, though. It’s probably like one of the biggest things or maybe even contrasts where the feeling itt gives me is more important than how it looks. I think that, you know, it looks good in photos, but I think that really colorful or dark painted rooms or contrasting rooms also look amazing in photos. But one of them I can live with and feel good and feel at home and one of them I can’t. So anyway, going on and on about white paint, but it one of my favorite subjects.

Emma: Thanks so much for listening. It means a ton to us as we’re trying to grow this year if you share our podcast. If you enjoy it, you can share about Instagram or really any social media or just tell…

Elsie: Thank you to everyone who’s sharing!

Emma: Yeah, the Elsie is posting a lot of them on her personal Instagram and it’s so fun to see so tag us because then we can see it. And it also means a lot iff you have a couple minutes to leave us a review, unless you don’t like the podcast, then please don’t leave a review (laughs). Just kidding just kidding. You can too. It’s cool. All right. Thanks for listening. It means a lot.

Elsie: See you next week.